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Democratic challenger sees red over GOP attempts to politicize relationship between Israel and the United States.
Both Rep. Robert Dold (R-Kenilworth) and Democratic challenger Brad Schneider of Deerfield agree with President Barack Obama and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu Iran should not have nuclear weapons but are not in complete harmony on the approach.
A day after the President told the United Nations General Assembly Iran will not be allowed to have nuclear weapons; Netanyahu drew a red line on a chart telling the same body military action should be automatic if the boundary is crossed.
Earlier: Democrats’ Jerusalem Platform Plank Unifies Dold, Schneider
Like the President, both contenders for the 10th District seat want all options on the table including the use of force. Dold wants a precise red line to keep Iran in check. Schneider does not want to give the Iranians permission to advance to a specific point.
“Iran cannot and will not be allowed to have a nuclear weapon,” Schneider said of his interpretation of the comments both by the President and Netanyahu. “When you create a line in the sand you’re telling them how far they can go. We need to get them to go in the other direction.”
Dold made it clear he agrees with the President and Netanyahu Iran should not be permitted to have nuclear weapons. He thinks a credible threat of force is part of the strategy necessary to keep that from happening.
“A nuclear Iran is unacceptable,” Dold said. “All options must be on the table and they must be very credible. It’s important we have a red line.”
Schneider Claims Republican Try to Politicize Israel
Though Schneider has no criticism of Dold’s voting record on Israel, he expressed disappointment at efforts by Illinois Republican Party Chairman Pat Brady to politicize the U.S. Israel relationship.
“Support of Israel has always been a bipartisan issue and always should be,” Schneider said. “We want the relationship secure by keeping it (non partisan) where it has been for a very long time. Anything else would be irresponsible.”
The issue arose when Brady issued a news release criticizing a comment Schneider made supporting the efforts a pair of pro Israel groups—the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (Aipac) and J Street.
“Brad Schneider represented his own position on Israel when he declared his support for J Street and that fact is indisputable,” Brady said in the release. “Voters deserve to hear directly from Brad Schneider why he supports a group that actively works to undermine the U.S.-Israel relationship.”
Schneider Is Not J Street Member, Group Has Not Endorsed Him
Schneider, who spent his first year after graduation from college working in Israel and whose work as an Aipac member has personally influenced members of Congress and former President George W. Bush, supports the efforts of both groups to strengthen the relationship between the two countries.
“Both organizations believe in a strong and secure Israel,” Schneider said. “I’ve been a proud member of Aipac since college.” He does not have a membership in J Street.
Aipac is a group which does not endorse candidates and works to educate members of Congress and other elected officials about the benefits of a strong relationship between Israel and the United States, according to information on its website.
J Street calls itself “political home for pro Israel pro peace Americans,” on its website. It is both an advocacy group and, unlike Aipac, endorses political candidates.
Neither Brady nor a spokesperson from the Illinois Republican Party responded to calls or emails from Patch for further comments. Dold, who, like Schneider, believes the American-Israel relationship should be a non partisan matter, is not a fan of J Street.
“The strength of the U.S.-Israel relationship lies in the United States Congress and its bipartisan support,” Dold said. “I am not a supporter of J Street. Have they ever endorsed a Republican?” A search of J Street’s website shows 66 endorsed candidates in the 2012 election cycle. All are Democrats. Schneider is not one.
Keith Best
8:08 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
How is it that in Fast and Furious, the coverup by the Obama Admin. is ignored even though a Border Agent was killed. Now, a US Ambassador was TORTURED and MURDERED and the Obama Admin. is covering this up.
Once a president was removed from office for lying to the people about a burglary, yet no one died.
Where are the real journalists these days besides in the tank for Obama?
Mosober
8:30 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
Keith,
All of the journalists are working for CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC and so this is what the Americans believe. Its a fraud being played every day around the World.
We were attacked and it takes the current administration over a week to stop lying about it. If Israel feels Obama is a winner watch them go into action and force his hand.
Sully
3:52 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Well first of all, fast and furious is not quite what the right wing pundits have made it out to be and not worth the uproar caused by Issa. Second, I don't believe Obama pulled the trigger or killed the US ambassador. But if you think that's worth impeachment, then I'm sure you believed the same for Bush would have been appropriate- going to war on false pretenses, covering up information regarding Hussein and Bin Laden, lying about weapons of mass destruction, and torturing prisoners. Surely impeachable offenses that the Obama administration let the Bush administration get away with.
IRmep
6:11 pm on Thursday, October 4, 2012
Here is an AIPAC publication devoted entirely to not ranking candidates. Yessiree cuz aipac doesn't do that, and also doesn't spy for Israel.
http://peacenow.org/entries/does_aipac_rate_candidates_you_decide#.UG4Xepg0WSo
RB
8:38 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
The old liberal media did it argument is bogus and unproven. Grasping at straws.
Guido McGinty
9:47 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
I have to agree with RB on this one. The media is not liberal, it is statist.
Whether a particular statist position is liberal or conservative matters not. The free and independent media is subservient to our betters within the Total State.
McCloud
8:49 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
It's proven every day. Between the horrific economy, Fast and Furious, tampering with tape and audio over the Treyvan Martin lie, and now the Mideast, the Prvada would be ashamed.
RB
9:24 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
What's proven everyday? Republicans put Ideology over Jobs, Rights, Lives and Laws. Mr. Schneider has agreed to compromise when necessary for the good of the Country. That's what's needed. Not more of the same extreme social agenda ideology of the New Republican Party.
Sully
3:09 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
There IS a sucker born every minute. Mac, you really need to broaden your horizons.
By the way, why didn't you answer my question about Florida? You know, I asked what has happened there recently regarding the election. I'm sure you have time to look it up.
Mosober
9:45 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
RB, First of all you cant make such blanket statements. I am sure Mr. Schneider has the best for the country in mind. However he is the wrong guy for the JOB.
The problem is we don't need more social programs we need more job creation. When the owners of companies are certain they will not be taxed to death they will invest and expand. We need people who can drive this confidence via actions and beliefs. Mr. Schneider falls critically short and totally under qualified outside his local community or convenient store. We need to stop printing money to solve our problems. We need to stop pointing fingers at the past and solving problems for the future. The last 4 years is a joke. We don't need more jokers.
Read about Mr. Dold and you will see real vision and spirit. Give it a try after you cash your government check.
RB
12:00 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
For some reason you think a Democrat always gets a Government check. That's an interesting view point. My father for instance fought in the South Pacific in WW2 so you would have the freedom to write your right wing Fox News jibberish. Yes, when he retired he got Social Security each month and after he fell ill and went through all his savings he died just before we were going to have him set to draw on Medicaid. My mother? Well she did draw Medicaid in the last 3 months of her life since they had spent all their savings caring for my dad. you seem agree with Romney and Ryan that Medicaid should be cut, I whole heartily disagree with you. By the way, they were both pretty much Republican voters. I would say they were more Republican than you'll ever be. Their Republican party no longer exists.
This right wing ideology about Democrats spending everyone's tax dollars giving it away to people is simply wrong.
Sully
3:28 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Where were all the job creators when W was in office. He cut their taxes, but jobs were lost nevertheless.
Guido McGinty
4:29 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
You cannot evaluate tax policy and jobs in isolation as if they are in a vacuum.
Two reasons for the disconnect under Shrub are a massive increase in the regulatory burden and massive misallocation of capital stemming from Fed policies.
http://reason.com/archives/2008/12/10/bushs-regulatory-kiss-off
McCloud
10:54 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
Ideology over Lives and Jobs? Wow, I thought Democrats were in favor of the human butcher shops. Jobs? Should I continue?
Sully
3:10 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Please do. This ought to be fun.
Tom B.
11:48 am on Monday, October 1, 2012
I'm Steve Sadin and I approve this ad...uh...I mean unbiased and informative article.
I love this reporter's unbiased, civic minded, informative articles about elections this year.
MS
1:06 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
What are you talking about? Which part do you find biased? Please be specific, thanks.
Mosober
1:26 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
@ RB: You do need to catch your breath and thank you for the bio. Why is it every time you disagree with an Obama fan you are accused of being a Fox News, right wing, republican? I know why because you cant argue against a failed 4 years and anger is all you can vent. By the way there will be no cut to your medicare as you are clearly over 55 years of given your loss of reality on this blog.
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Sully
3:17 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
It's not those who are opposed to Obama for legitimate reasons. It is those who believe he is a communist socialist Kenyan who wants to take everyone's guns away and turn America into an Islamic dictatorship. The ones who believe he hasn't shown his true birth certificate, he's a drug addict, and lets see, what else? Oh, and he took sole credit for Bin Laden, not mentioning the SEALS at all. Those are the ones who watch Fox daily for their "news". And Obamacare is not taking everyone's money as has been suggested.
RB
3:18 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
@mosober, it was your blanket statement about the liberal press. Those are simply right wing talking points....so there you go. Have yourself a great day now, watch that remote....you might end up on Chris Matthews, Rachel, Rev. Sharpton or others that will probably give you a truthful headache. You Stick to fair and balanced, I'll stick to the truth.
Sully
3:42 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
RB, while not as blatantly as Fox, those you mentioned can go over the top! Not the absurdity that Fox passes as news, but they can be somewhat annoying and embellish their reporting. Overall though, the "liberal press" does not exist as republicans see it.
Mosober
3:26 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
@RB: Maybe big government is good so the likes of you are kept from the normal in this Country. We will be able to visit you every weekend if Rev Al and Chris Matthews approve.
Will stay with my home of the free and wish you the best in the hands (handouts) of the many.
Never really thought that anyone believed everything they see on TV, guess I was wrong.
Sully
3:55 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Uh, Mosober what the h--l are you talking about? It seems you may be the one who agrees with everything the right wing propaganda machine reports.
Sully
3:56 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Who are "the normal" in this country?
RB
4:25 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Maybe mo'sober ain't so....mo. I have no clue what he's talking about.....and he votes, that's what's scary. To each his own. I don't bite at such bait.
McCloud
4:59 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
There were plenty of jobs created during the Bush term, then there was something at the end called The Housing Crisis, which had ripple effects on the macro economy. So the liberals are now able to make the dishonest claim that the Bush administration did not create jobs. I'm not one to favor all of Bush's policy, but the false claims of correlation make for economic standards being stood on their head. It works politically, thanks to political regurgitators like RB and Sully.
RB
5:29 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Wrong again McCloud. Under Bush an immediate loss of Private Sector jobs started upon his taking office AND an immediate growth in Public Sector jobs began. So, Bush basically was consistent with one thing. Loss of Private Sector Jobs throughout his term in office, not just at the end due to housing. Interesting that he also started growing Public Sector jobs pretty much from the beginning too. Isn't that exactly different than you and your Conservatives wanted? Spin doesn't hide the facts. Oh, and under Obama Public sector Government jobs have dropped and private sector jobs have increased. Dang, those facts gettin in the way of your horse again.
Sully
5:18 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Oh McCloud, you got it bad!
McCloud
5:30 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
I must have crossed a truth in your dishonest path toward dishonesty. So is that all you got?
Sully
6:50 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Okay Mac-
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/07/17/the-truth-about-the-bush-tax-cuts-and-job-growth/2/
http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/01/20/lowest-job-growth-since-wwii-under-george-w-bush/
How about reading these. You may learn a little something.
Still waiting to see if you know what's going on in Florida. Funny, the right wing and Fox don't seem to be reporting on this much, so I'll understand if you don't know.
Guido McGinty
6:53 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Sully, you cannot look at tax policy and job growth in a vacuum.
Two reasons for the disconnect under Shrub are a massive increase in the regulatory burden and massive misallocation of capital stemming from Fed policies.
http://reason.com/archives/2008/12/10/bushs-regulatory-kiss-off
Shrub was a big government disaster. That is independent from his relatively improved tax policy.
Sully
7:32 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
I'm not sure I buy your premise, Guido. I read the article you posted, but while there is some validity to it, I personally don't believe this had much to do with the GDP. Bush's tax cuts did not increase employment or lower the deficit.
I get it that you aren't a big Bush fan, and I appreciate your honesty. We just seem to interpret things a little differently. And I am. It a big fan of Obama, but compared to Romney, I'd rather go with what we got. People like McCloud don't seem to understand that their taxes will be going up under Romney. The job creators, who really aren't, will gain more financial, economic, and political power while the "little people" (including the 47 percent) will be the ones paying for it. There is absolutely no way the deficit will go down under Romney. I'm also willing to bet that should he become president, the republicans won't quite care as much about the deficit as they do now. They certainly didn't under Bush.
Sully
7:36 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Oops, typos on my last post. What I was saying is I am not a big fan of Obama.
McCloud
5:36 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Ok, so the recipe for more disaster is set, Obamacare taxes, by the way the largest tax increase in history, will begin next year across mostly middle income wage earners, and the expiration of the current income tax, meaning huge across the board increases. You didn' thave fun during the first four years of Obama? Just wait, Part Duex may begin soon.
Sully
7:00 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Oh, so it's only Obama's fault if the current tax expires? I seem to remember some republicans involved as well. But poor babies, they just couldn't stand up to that meanie Obama. Instead, they just decided to filibuster anything and everything, put secret holds on bills and appointments, and basically just sit back and do nothing for four years that may help the American people. Mac won't believe this of course because the tea party is the only absolutely and completely honest entity. If we had just listened to them, the credit rating wouldn't have been dropped. All the discourse between the two parties had nothing to do with it. Just those darn democrats.
McCloud
5:41 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Dang, if not for the prickly weeds growing across our nation in every strip mall, and the phony unemployment propaganda, our economy is on the rebound. You may wish to consult the former Mao Se Tung for more encouraging news on the economy. WHAT A JOKE.
RB
5:43 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
You said Bush only lost jobs due to the housing crisis. I called you on it. I'm a communist for calling you out? Not!
McCloud
5:43 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
All I have to say to anyone with an economics degree is 1% GDP.
Guido McGinty
6:51 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
GDP is a useless statistic. Anything that treats $1 of government spending as a product is bound to be useless.
Employment and real income growth are much better measurements.
Sully
7:15 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
What are you talking about Mac?
http://economyinperspective.com/gdp
Average annual GDP from highest to lowest.
Kennedy/Johnson 5.2%
Clinton 3.7%
Carter 3.4%
Reagan 3.3%
Nixon/Ford 2.7%
Eisenhower 2.3%
Obama 2.1% (as of 08/12)
GHW Bush 1.9%
Truman 1.8%
GW Bush 1.7%
McCloud
5:55 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
You called me on nothing pal. Here are the numbers.The highest monthly average prior to the late 2008 financial crisis was 6.3 percent. His overall monthly average was 5.3 percent. Compare that to the Obama failure. We also had 54 consecutive months of GDP growth after the tax cut. You really have to scramble when you defend a failure in the white house.
RB
6:58 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Look at Public Sector vs. Private Sector like I did. You may be surprised, don't spin the numbers. One sector costs taxpayers and one creates economy improving jobs. Guess which Bush added and which one lost jobs? Yep, everyone gets it but mosober and McCloud. Bush added Public Sector and killed Private sector. Tinkle down economics.
Mosober
6:28 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
@RB: How can you support an administration that continues to support an economic theory that follows the logic: "Drill another hole in the boat to let the water out"
16 trillion in debt starting at 10 trillion and this clown still plans to print money.
I hope you like rice.
RB
6:52 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
12 years of trickle down? Not theory. Does not work. Where are the jobs? Both Reagan and Bush 41 had to raise spending and debt to fight recession caused by Trickle down. Bush 43 raised spending to fight recession and left office right when things crashed. Let's try theory, trickle down facts are not helping.
McCloud
6:49 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
He'd rather talk about Bush. It's all smoke and mirrors for him, but it's mac n cheese for dinner for record numbers under Obama.
RB
7:08 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Ryan can't even explain Ryanomics! Not even on Fox? He got tripped up like a school kid caught cheating. $5 trillion in tax breaks and they promise revenue neutral? Makes no sense to anyone, even Chris Wallace on Fox." Loopholes, we'll tell you later which ones" right. There, not a word about Bush.
McCloud
7:04 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Now you'd rather talk about Reagan. I won't bite. I'd rather get schooled on what Obama plans on doing. His one bullet was a miserable failure, nothing left in the chamber except using the Democrat groups, blacks, gays, women, unions, hispanics. Wait the hispanics are waking up to the lies, see Unovision interview.
RB
7:09 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
.....and the white working class male, and the female vote..have you even read any polls?
RB
7:23 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Mac- Idea, maybe you email Mitt. Give him some Zingers! That's what he's collecting for the debates. If you want to stretch yourself why don't you explain Ryanomics to him. Ryan seems to be unable to explain it. Zingers! That's it. No facts or details...zingers!
Sully
7:41 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
I thought that Univision stunt was great. Darkening his skin, screaming at the commentators - great stuff!
Hmm, I wonder what percentage of the US is comprised of blacks, gays, women, unions, and Hispanics. Couldn't be very high, right?
Guido McGinty
7:45 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
I think this is the Univision interview Mac is referring to.
http://reason.com/blog/2012/09/21/univision-gives-obama-first-serious-gril
Attention media, this is what a real interview looks like.
Sully
8:10 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
I disagree about that too, Guido. GDP isn't useless. Also, Univision interviewed both candidates. According to reports, Romney got angry when the interviewers didn't do what he wanted them to do.
McCloud
7:28 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Facts? 1%GDP, record unemployment, 88 million Americans no longer in the work force, credit downgrades, massive debt over 5 trillion by now. Do any of these zing you, cause there are millions who are zinged every day.
RB
7:31 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
.....and all because of Bush 43 and 40 years of living off of debt.
Sully
7:45 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
http://money.cnn.com/2012/06/22/news/economy/obama-spending/index.htm
Hey Mac, something else for you to read.
McCloud
8:14 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Bush card, ummm there it is, ummp there it is. Last card in the deck. Blame the other guy, in your case the other other guy. Sequence may be a bit out of order, but when desparate, throw the kitchen sink.
McCloud
8:23 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Did McKinley have anything to do with this mess? Just Askin. In your case if there is a Party afilliated then yes.
RB
8:26 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Maybe McCloud is Schulte? Similar obsessions. Similar deflections. Similar delusional bait. Similar off topic right wing leanings. Yep, I found him.
Sully
6:42 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
But Rich is proud to give his name and let everyone know just how ridiculous he is. However, I've suspected as well. They are awfully similar.
Guido McGinty
10:33 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Is Emmanuel Goldstein hiding under your bed?
Last week I was Schulte, now it's Mac? Make up your mind for the object of your two minutes hate.
McCloud
8:36 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Is that supposed to be a zinger? Cause there are 88 million Americans who are currently out of the labor force, and they'd like you to really know what a zinger is, they wake up to it every day. But you'd rather talk about contraceptives.
Louis G. Atsaves
1:36 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Schneider was caught on tape expressing his support of J-Street. Does it make a difference if he is a member of J-Street or not? No. But he publicly stated his support of this organization, which Alan Dershowitz claims is a fraud concerning support of the State of Israel. The real question which was never asked is why is he supporting J-Street, an organization which Alan Dershowitz claims is a fraud? Where is his judgement here?
Sully
6:46 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
The alliance between Israel and the religious right is pretty scary. Israel wants the money and military might, and the religious right wants Israel so it can be converted. Without Israel in hand, the second coming can't come (or something like that). Israel's making a deal with the devil in this case.
Louis G. Atsaves
10:00 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
The "religious right" wants to convert Israel? Without Israel there is no "second coming?" Where are you getting this stuff? Do you see black helicopters when you leave your house too?
J-Street wants Israel to pull back to pre-1967 borders and negotiate with its enemies who want simply to exterminate Israel off the face of the earth?
Now THAT IS SCARY! And Schneider endorses those J-Street positions? Or does he just endorse J-Street which happens to take such positions? Can someone make sense out of that position?
Perhaps Patch should ask Schneider harder questions about his real positions instead of giving him a forum to alibi?
McCloud
6:50 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
What wack job site did those GDP numbers come from? They just adjusted 2Q down to 1.2%, but the cover-up by these sinister operatives is working for you. Real GDP growth under Reagan averaged between 7 and 8%. But go ahead and rewrite, I was there.
Sully
10:07 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Of course you were. The wack job site this came from was the US Department of Commerce.
McCloud
7:53 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Extremist alert! Religious right wants to convert Israel? Nut job siren sounding.
Sully
10:03 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Ever heard of John Hagee, Mac? Here, let me help you out on this one.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10375.html
http://www.jhm.org/
Sully
10:23 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Here's more for you, Mac-
http://www.theocracywatch.org/christian_zionism.htm
http://www.theocracywatch.org/christian_zionism_dispensationalism.htm
In order for the end times to occur in which Christ will return to Earth, Israel has to be in Jewish hands. Of course when Christ does come back, Jews will have to convert or be killed.
Stevie Janowski
6:34 pm on Thursday, October 4, 2012
Schneider is a phoney. He is not connected with the community and claims to has great business experiance. How come his company has reported ZERO profits in the last 3 years? This is a clear choice. DOLD
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