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Student Questions Challenge Candidates
Bavda, Sheyman and Schneider get some unusual inquiries from Stevenson High School students.
Democratic Congressional candidates Brad Schneider, Ilya Sheyman and Vivek Bavda got a challenge during their debate Wednesday from students at Stevenson High School.
In a student run forum before more than 250 people at Stevenson, many of them students who are already of voting age, the three candidates got questions unlike many they have been asked at previous events.
All three candidates and a fourth contender, Long Grove business owner John Tree, are running in the March 20 primary for the opportunity to challenge Rep. Robert Dold (R-Kenilworth) in the Nov. 6 general election.
Tree did not attend because he had a scheduling conflict, according to Stevenson teacher Dan Larsen who helped the students organize the evening.
Some of the time the candidates gave a direct answer but when student moderators Jordan Silverman and Steve Kislenko wanted to know the fifth President they would put on Mr. Rushmore, not all responses were direct.
Who Would Be the Fifth Face on Mt. Rushmore?
Schneider and Sheyman were not ready to have the government hire a sculptor but Bavda, a Mundelein attorney, was more certain.
“The current one,” Bavda said referring to President Barack Obama. “He broke a barrier that some did not think would happen for another 50 years. He passed the Affordable Care Act.” He also lauded Obama’s efforts for students.
Sheyman may be willing to put Obama on Mr. Rushmore. The Waukegan community organizer praised the President’s effort. If the next four years meet Sheyman’s expectations, he would have the carving made. “The President has done a good job but the history has not been written,” he said.
Schneider, a management consultant from Deerfield, wants to reserve the honor for a future president who leads the country out of its current circumstances.
“John Kennedy was the President when I was born,” Schneider said. “There is not any president in my lifetime who I would put up there. The one who can correct our current problems will be the one I would put on Mt. Rushmore.”
Candidates Lack Elective Experience
The students also wanted to know why so few candidates emerge in the 10th Congressional District with experience in government. None of the Democrats have held elective office and Dold came to Congress two years ago directly from a business career.
“People are looking for a different kind of leader today,” Schneider said. “They want someone who has ideas to get us out of the challenges we face, people who have experience raising a family, experience running a business.”
Sheyman let the gathering know Congress currently has a nine percent approval rating questioning why voters would want to choose a representative who was currently part of government.
“The last thing voters want is someone who wants to do things the same old way,” Sheyman said. “They want someone to come to Congress who will stand up for their values.”
According to Bavda, the diversity of the residents in the 10th District “will bring people from all walks of life.”
Challenges of Being a Freshman Legislator
Another student question wanted the candidates to explain how they would behave as freshman members of Congress and how it compared to being a freshman in high school.
“You learn how to get along with people who are different than you,” Sheyman said. He will get to know the people who have different values and where they may agree with him. “Then we can say let’s get to work.”
Bavda knows it will be a learning experience but was not shy about wanting to make an immediate contribution. “You learn as much as you can and you find your niche,” he said.
Explaining he was never a high school freshman because he finished ninth grade in a junior high before his family moved putting him in a four-year secondary school as a sophomore, he related what he gained in his first year of college.
“Dig deeper. Know what the challenge is and dig deeper,” Schneider said. “The solution won’t be the first thing. Look for the second, the third, dig deeper.”
Daniel Krudop
1:27 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
"Sheyman let the gathering know Congress currently has a nine percent approval rating questioning why voters would want to choose a representative who was currently part of government."
Oops! Guess he just lost Jan Schakowsky's support.
Jon Hall
3:21 pm on Friday, February 24, 2012
This Daily Herald endorsement is odd because another perspective might be he can't keep a job.
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120221/discuss/702219997/
Daniel
1:49 am on Saturday, February 25, 2012
I mean if you are going to take that stance, Ilya hasn't even had a real job outside of politics yet (working at jewel in high school does not count). Conversely, Brad has run a successful small business consulting firm.
Abigail
11:30 am on Saturday, February 25, 2012
I'd rather see Sheyman run against Dold--it would be like Dan Seals running again and Dold would be sure to win. Of course there are those in BG who would vote for him because of the BG and Jewel connection among other things.
Jon Hall
12:12 pm on Saturday, February 25, 2012
You should be careful of what you wish for Abby. The dolt is an incumbent now, he has a record, and the valus-pak is doing everything it can to erode the dolt's support from moderates. Things may not work out as you're hoping.
Abigail
3:27 pm on Saturday, February 25, 2012
Still, Jon, there are those who actually think Sheyman is a serious candidate. Personally, I think it's like voting for someone who's still wet behind the ears.
OldDanFan
10:09 pm on Saturday, February 25, 2012
Sheyman IS a serious candidate. Really.
Dold, on the other hand? I am not taking ANYTHING he says seriously again.
He told us he was pro-choice. Did not vote that way.
He told us he was a Friend of the Environment. Did not vote that way.
He told us he was a staunch supporter of Israel. But so is the entire House and Senate, so who cares?
Daniel
10:34 pm on Saturday, February 25, 2012
If you think that Sheyman stands a chance in a general election then you are out of your mind. Even with the new district borders, Dold is going to put up a tough fight. If we are serious about winning back this seat in congress with a district whose deciding votes are independents, we need to make sure that we put the best candidate forward.
Ilya does not have the life experience to be in congress. And while ideologues may vote for him solely on his extreme left-wing views, they are a minority, especially in the 10th. Ilya has never held a real job outside of community organizing. He very recently graduated from college, and hasn't actually lived an adult life long enough to understand fiscal responsibility and the effects of governmental policy on someones life. The independents will look at him and will see someone who is naive and young.
There is a reason for Ilya's early lead in this election: activists and ideologues. But as the election progresses, we have seen Brad Schneider take the lead because he speaks to the average person; the types of people who are tired of todays politics of harsh rhetoric and special interests. Ilya is nothing more than the tea party of the left. What the 10th district wants is someone who has lived in American and knows what it is like to pay taxes, to work, and to pay mortgages on a home. Someone who stays true to their convictions, but is willing to compromise for the greater good of this country. This person is Brad Schneider.
Daniel Krudop
6:31 am on Sunday, February 26, 2012
Funny. I voted for Dold in spite of his pro-choice stance and he confirmed that when he broke with his party and voted to continue supporting Planned Parenthood. He even went on the House floor to push for that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXqL87SLx-M
Jon Hall
7:41 am on Sunday, February 26, 2012
Being curious by nature, I attended Saturday's forum in Deerfield. I'd rank performances 1. Sheyman. 2. Tree. 3. Schneider. 4. Bavda. Yes, Sheyman is that good. I was astounded. He comes across prepared, articulate, enthusiastic. He appears as older than he is, and far more mature than I expected for his age. Yes he's too far left, his only weakness is the off-target penchant for slamming Schneider for his contributions to Republicans, and he got hammered on that. It should teach him a lesson.
Sheyman is really good at what he is doing. Schneider is terrible. First he doesn't speak clearly. Sheyman and Tree were able to clearly articulate their positions. Schneider is a mumbler who speaks in platitudes, and he just can't seem to project content, enthusiasm, authenticity, or leadership together in one electable package. He's just dull, all around. I'll stick with my earlier statements - he gives the impression his job record is sketchy because part of his demeanor projects that if I were his boss, I'd eventually be firing him so why hire him in the first place?.
Sheyman is an extremist, but I sensed he possesses intangible ingredients that his opponents don't have; more ambition, preparedness, and enthusiasm. A better manager. He's a well-schooled and already a very skilled politician with far more experience in living and dealing with 2012 issues than his opponents.
It's hard envisioning Schneider or Tree doing well against dolt. They lack passion. Not so Sheyman.
Nightcrawler
8:23 am on Sunday, February 26, 2012
Thanks. For what it's worth, Sheyman's direct mail piece is comparable. Very clear and focused, and unusually professional.
flower child
11:54 am on Sunday, February 26, 2012
Brilliant post, Jon Hall.
And good decision to support Ilya.
You are so right about Ilya’s focus and passion!
These 2 attributes will help Ilya win wide margins of (“Independent”) supporters in the general election!
Daniel
12:15 pm on Sunday, February 26, 2012
How articulate someone speaks (yes I will admit Ilya spoke better; after all, he was one of the best debaters in the state a few years back when he was in high school) is absolutely no measure of how good of a candidate they are, nor is it a measure of how good their policy is. Voting for Ilya who you admit is an extremist is voting based on appearance, not content. Vote for Ilya because you like his policy, vote for Brad if you like his policy. That is how the democratic process works. Speaking shouldn't play in any more than appearance does. Have you heard some of the god-awful speeches on CSPAN by elected congressman?
flower child
4:48 pm on Sunday, February 26, 2012
daniel0987,
You say a candidate’s speaking abilities shouldn't play a role in whether somebody chooses to vote for him or not.
I couldn’t disagree more.
First:
In the Democratic Primary, we are choosing someone who (in the General Election) will go head to head with the GOP candidate (Dold) in numerous debates and candidate forums leading up to the Election. If our Democratic candidate lacks sufficient speaking abilities, how will he get his message across, and how well could we expect him to do in the General Election?
Second:
Ultimately, we are choosing someone to go to DC and **speak** for us! I’d say ** speaking abilities** are pretty darned important!
Daniel
4:55 pm on Sunday, February 26, 2012
But if you disagree with Ilya's extremist policies, then you are voting against your interests. Yes I agree that speaking is important, but we have to remember than none of these candidates are bad speakers. Brad is still a very good speaker, especially when talking about policy. We are electing someone to speak for us, but their speaking skills are irrelevant if they are not representing the people.
flower child
5:18 pm on Sunday, February 26, 2012
Hmmmmmm, daniel0987,
What are Ilya's extremist policies?
Daniel
5:41 pm on Sunday, February 26, 2012
@flower child I was actually referring to the premise in John Hall's original post where he said, "Sheyman is an extremist"
Abigail
8:56 am on Sunday, February 26, 2012
Maybe the reason Sheyman's direct mail piece is so good is he may have help from his former employer--MoveOn.org. They probably have excellent marketing people since so many people believe the information they put out.
Jon Hall
11:48 am on Sunday, February 26, 2012
Perhaps the reason the content of your messages keeps missing the mark is your inability to articulate an original thought of your own.
Sully
6:21 am on Monday, February 27, 2012
Just as you believe everything you hear on Fox, despite the numerous times they've been documented giving false information, and presented nothing but the republican party's propaganda and talking points.
Jon Hall
11:53 am on Sunday, February 26, 2012
In a Mitt Romney-like moment in addressing the education challenges facing our children and grandchildren, Brad offered up the example of the "tough challenges" his son is facing with curriculum challenges in his first semester at "an Eastern University", and how Brad is making a difference in his son's life by encouraging him not to give up. What is so extraordinary about that Brad?
Abigail
3:44 pm on Sunday, February 26, 2012
Daniel10987 said: "How articulate someone speaks (yes I will admit Ilya spoke better; after all, he was one of the best debaters in the state a few years back when he was in high school) is absolutely no measure of how good of a candidate they are, nor is it a measure of how good their policy is. Voting for Ilya who you admit is an extremist is voting based on appearance, not content."
Abigail says: A lot of people posting here already voted for one extremist who is articulate and look where it got us. Do we really need another one?
Nightcrawler
4:16 pm on Sunday, February 26, 2012
Wow. Assuming you're talking about President Obama, you sure have a different worldview from the people who plan on voting in the Democratic primary. So I'm curious: Which one of those GOP non-extremists are you pulling for in the presidential primary?
Abigail
5:18 pm on Sunday, February 26, 2012
Nightcrawler, I will not vote for Obama. No way, no how.
So, yes, I will be voting GOP, but I haven't decided which candidate yet. No matter which one I choose, ANYONE is better than Obama.
Nightcrawler
7:52 pm on Sunday, February 26, 2012
Yeah, that has to be a tough decision, with four such brilliant statesmen to choose from.
John Russillo
8:27 pm on Sunday, February 26, 2012
The guy who couldn't name the third government agency was probably the brightest of the bunch.
Sully
6:23 am on Monday, February 27, 2012
I'm interested in what you perceive to be extremist positions taken by Obama. Please, do tell. And i'm also interested in knowing if you think Santorum is extremist. Many republicans seem to think so and are scared of this guy winning the GOP nomination.
Abigail
10:35 pm on Sunday, February 26, 2012
Yes, John, right along there with Obama's "57 states."
Abigail
9:05 am on Monday, February 27, 2012
Sully
6:21 am on Monday, February 27, 2012
Just as you believe everything you hear on Fox, despite the numerous times they've been documented giving false information, and presented nothing but the republican party's propaganda and talking points.
Abigail says: Sully, if you are going to make a statement like that--I want to see proof. Oh, wait, there isn't any, is there!
Abigail
9:34 am on Monday, February 27, 2012
Sully
6:23 am on Monday, February 27, 2012
I'm interested in what you perceive to be extremist positions taken by Obama. Please, do tell. And i'm also interested in knowing if you think Santorum is extremist. Many republicans seem to think so and are scared of this guy winning the GOP nomination.
Abigail says: Sully, it has been documented that Barack Hussein Obama was the most liberal person in the senate; therefore, it's safe to assume he is also the most liberal president we've ever had. I know for certain he is the worst president in our generation.
As for Rick Santorum, I will not be voting for him in the primary because I am a Mitt Romney fan. If Newt hadn't imploded, I would vote for Newt. Santorum would be third on my list. HOWEVER, if Rick Santorum is the Republican nominee for president I will most definitely vote for him. I can't stand the thought of 4 more years of Obama.
Jon Hall
10:18 am on Monday, February 27, 2012
Abigail, can you say that Mitt is running a better campaign now than he did four years ago? Running for President has been this ninny's job for 6 six years. Do you think his job performance indicates he's got the real deal effectiveness he claims? I think he is destroying the party by continuing to divide it. He is destroying the confidence and trust of swing voters. Spare us your frustration, your time may be better used praying for your party..
Abigail
10:50 am on Monday, February 27, 2012
Jon, the Democrat party has people like you everywhere--those that think if they make disparaging remarks about Republican candidates that the rest of us will forget about the vast failings of your candidate Barack Obama. Just like the comment made in 2008--"if you don't vote for Obama, you're a racist"--Democrats as a whole do not like Mitt. Why is that? Is it because he can turn this country's economy around, where your guy can't? Yes, I think that may be the reason. Mitt's record of success in business and government precedes him, whereas your guy only has experience making speeches, continually campaigning, and voting "present."
Abigail
10:51 am on Monday, February 27, 2012
Also, Jon, please notice that I haven't resorted to calling Obama names (like you referred to Mitt Romney as a "ninny"). But that train has left the station--now I will stoop to your level of name-calling. I feel Obama is a bloody idiot because even when the Democrats had control of the House and the Senate, he still couldn't push through his far left agenda. Why is that? Could it be his own party wouldn't vote for the garbage he was trying to push on this country? But look at what your idiot HAS done to our country--worst recession in the history of our nation, unemployment the highest it's been in decades, record foreclosures and no end in sight no matter what CNN, CNBC, NBC, ABC, and the other Obama--favoring networks say. I can go on and on. But, no, none of this is Obama's fault--George W. Bush is still to blame.
Get over it, Jon, your guy owns the problems and has since the day he was elected. He does not deserve to be re-elected.
Now let's see if the rest of you Dems can grow a pair and vote for someone who can turn this country back into prosperity--because the guy YOU elected surely can't.
Abigail
11:01 am on Monday, February 27, 2012
Oh, and I forgot MSNBC, how can I forget Chris Matthews, Rachel Maddow, etc.
Don't bother responding, Jon, I've made my point and I really don't think you or any of the rest of the Dems on this blog have anything to say that I care to hear. Wait, that almost sounds like something a Democrat would say!!
Jon Hall
2:13 pm on Monday, February 27, 2012
So many words, so little content. The question directed to you was:
"Can you say that Mitt is running a better campaign now than he did four years ago"?
We've read the other random drivel repeatedly. Answer the question.
Nightcrawler
5:21 pm on Monday, February 27, 2012
I think you lost her, Jon. Probably tuned back into Fox News, where it's all about what she cares to hear. But I like your question. It seems to me Romney wasn't nearly as shallow and desperate to be liked in 08 as he is this time around. It's really creepy.
Sully
7:03 pm on Monday, February 27, 2012
Just or you, Abigail-
http://robwrite.hubpages.com/hub/Masters-of-Misinformation-Surveys-Skewer-Fox-News-for-Inaccurate-Reporting
http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2011/11/21/fairleigh_dickinson_publicmind_poll_shows_fox_news_viewers_less_informed_on_major_news_stories.html
http://mediamatters.org/research/200911190043
http://www.mediaite.com/online/fox-news-crowd-footage-goes-rogue-again/
http://restoretheconstitution.wordpress.com/2011/02/17/in-case-you-havent-seen-it-fox-news-busted-for-false-story-on-cpac-crowds-reaction-to-ron-pauls-straw-poll-victory/
http://blogcritics.org/politics/article/fox-news-again-uses-false-footage/
http://www.newshounds.us/2008/04
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Fox_News
http://mediamatters.org/research/200806060010
/25/hume_smears_pelosi_but_transcript_is_incomplete.php
http://www.zimbio.com/Megyn+Kelly/articles/X9L8rGgpMbF/CLASSIC+Fox+News+Spins+False+Story+Then+Spins
So many examples to cite, but so little time...
Tony
8:58 am on Saturday, March 3, 2012
Your obsession with Fox News is a simplistic, lazy, childish effort to validate your own failed ideology. Conservatives don’t need Fox News to validate their ideology because we have the constitution and history on our side. Perhaps if you spent as much time reading history, studying the founding of the country, the constitution, reading Adam Smith, Locke, Montesquieu, Tocqueville, as you spend on meadiamatters, you might learn something and enlighten yourself. Or if you are not interested in classical history, maybe something more current, like how desperately liberalism has failed over the last 100 years.
My view is that Fox News succeeds over the other useless liberal cable outlets simply because it’s NOT liberal. People overlook its shortcomings and their so-called lies as you point out because they are yearning for anything that is not canned liberalism. The fact that they have been number 1 for so many years seems to prove this.
OldDanFan
11:23 am on Saturday, March 3, 2012
you want history, Tony?
The impact of the Bush tax cuts was crystal clear -- the largest recession since the great depression and the highest unemployment since unemployment statistics were collected. We're in the mess we're in now BECAUSE OF the Bush tax cuts, BECAUSE OF two **unfunded** Bush wars of choice, BECAUSE OF a de-regulated banking and financial industry (thanks in large part to Reagun, Bush, and Bush). So the argument is to make them permanent? To make the recession a real depression?
The empirical evidence is clear -- the Bush tax cuts DID NOT CREATE ECONOMIC GROWTH and the Bush tax cuts INCREASED UNEMPLOYMENT at an unprecedented pace. These are the data, not the political rhetoric. Before the Bush tax cuts, when Clinton was President and in the early years of Bush 43, the nation's finances were in the best condition that they've been in in the last 25 years. What happened to the good economy? The Bush tax cuts coupled with successive "supplemental" appropriations so that the Administration could carry out its military excursions without making the public have to pay for them!
Brian
10:13 am on Saturday, March 3, 2012
Have politics sparked this much hostility in our country since the Civil War or is it just something that I haven't paid attention to? When did it get to the point that the party lines drawn had to equal a verbal civil war? People always talk about their party being the only good thing for the country, but when able to look objectively both parties can and do bring good things to the nation. There is a reason that through history you see the party in office change every so often. The independents sway on what the nation may need at the time. Do people honestly believe that the opposing party president is trying to destroy America or are they moving forward but just in a way you don't agree with? I wasn't a fan of Bush, but I accepted that a little over half the nation thought he was at least good enough. People forget that a majority doesn't equal the whole nation. The first W. election, depending on you ask, was not even won in the popular vote by Bush. Almost 51 million people had to live with someone they didn't want in office. And they came out the other side ok. Fox news may report one side of an issue and MSNBC the other....meeting in the middle shouldn't be this hard.
grandpa
10:57 am on Saturday, March 3, 2012
As far as "meeting in the middle", if you have one foot in boiling water and the other in liquid nitrogen, on average you should be comfortable in the middle.
Politics has always been a verbal war, (look back into history at some of the campaigns in the 1800's), it has, however become considerably less "civil" over the past 50 years. I believe that can be attributed to the lessening of the attention span of the electorate to where they expect 15 second "Sesame street" sound bytes and sloganeering instead of reason. Demonizing the opposition is nothing new... it's just marketed better these days.
And, both political parties and their spokespersons are just two sides of the same counterfeit coin.
Brian
12:30 pm on Saturday, March 3, 2012
I understand your analogy, but that doesn't seem to apply as much. These shouldn't be issues that compare to a physical meeting in the middle. When you mix warm water and cool water, they become neutral. It's not that combing the two should clash, but they should constructively give input and work together on common ground. The problem is no ones constituents seem to want their representative to work with the other party or consider it "working with them" if the other side gives in only.
I like your likening it to attention span. I think it also is problem with the way people get their information and spit it back out with the internet. Everyone has a soap box, myself included, and they get angrier and angrier if people don't see it their way.
Abigail
11:05 am on Saturday, March 3, 2012
Tony is right. People in general are fed up with Obama's attempts to turn our country into a welfare state and his feeble attempts to make the Republicans out to be the bad guy. Liberals want the entire country dependent on the government--but, who's going to pay for all of this? The Democrats? Not bloody likely.
Brian
11:42 am on Saturday, March 3, 2012
That's painting in extremely broad terms. It works great to say that the president is painting Republicans as bad guys when in turn you are doing the same thing to him/democrats. To boldly state that Dems want the "whole" country on welfare isn't right. Of course the welfare system is flawed and people take advantage of it. But for me, being one of the leading nations in the world means that we take care of our poorest as well. Talk to people who have used food stamps and welfare to get back on their feet. The system can work as well, but it needs people on the plus side to function properly as well.
Abigail
12:59 pm on Saturday, March 3, 2012
Brian, you have to admit that right now our system has more people moving to the minus side than it does people moving to the plus side and it doesn't appear that our president is doing much to help the situation. Am I demonizing the Democrats? You betcha, and the reason for that is clear--Democrats seem to enjoy having more people in their back pocket due to government handouts and consistently point at the Republicans as being the bad guys who want to take that away. Republicans DON'T want to take away government help for people who need it, but we (Republicans) don't want people using food stamps and welfare as a way of life. Welfare was meant as a helping hand until people can get back on their feet--not as a way of life.
Our economy is in the toilet and the man in charge (Obama) isn't doing much to get it going again. I guess that $528 million he threw away by giving it to Solyndra, which ultimately went bankrupt, could really go a long way to help people, couldn't it? And didn't I read recently there's another green energy company having financial problems and they also received Obama money? Maybe he should quit trying to save the world with green energy and concentrate on getting people back to work with PERMANENT jobs and not the temporary ones his initiatives turned out.
Tony
4:19 pm on Saturday, March 3, 2012
OldDanFan…. You obviously didn’t notice that I did not use the word Republican or Bush in my comments. Despite what liberals believe, GWB was not a true conservative in my eyes. That being said, once again you use simplistic economic correlations that make no sense. You are making a correlation of tax rates and their effect during different economic circumstances. Regardless of who you believe caused this recession, Clinton did not have this bad of economy or jobless rate when he was proposing his tax rates (thanks to Reagan). There is no way Clinton would have been able to raise taxes with a real unemployment rate of around 10% that we have today. Apples to oranges.
We are really in a sad state if people like you believe that other citizens keeping their own money is the cause for an economic recession. You also failed to mention 9/11 and Hurricane Katrina. Despite those tragedies, the unemployment rate never really went above 6.3% from 2002 through 2008. Perhaps some of that stability was people keeping their own money (i.e bush tax cuts)?
At any rate, maybe you are right. We need more top-down-authoritative policies, higher taxes, more regulations. That will solve all of our problems and give us much more liberty. (sarcasm implied).