Transfer Station to be Addressed Tonight at Village Meeting

Potential project has met with strong opposition from residents, village administrator will address the issue tonight at 7 p.m. at the village meeting.

Resident opposition has been squared strongly against a transfer station proposed by Lakeshore Waste Services at 6132 W. Oakston St. near Lehigh. 

Village Administrator Ryan Horne will be presenting information tonight at the Village of Morton Grove board of trustees meeting, to address citizen concerns and to clear up what he says is misinformation about the proposal. 

In a , there were more than 50 comments made by readers.  

Catherine Peters commented: "Penny wise and pound foolish, in my humble opinion. The proposal would gain each MG resident between $3 to $10 per year by the estimates...weigh that against the decrease in property values and, more importantly, the difficulty in attracting other new businesses to that industrial area that who provide a greater tax benefit to our residents and I think it's easy to see that this one is a net loser. We are land-locked and fully developed and though we must be aggressive about building our business base, we also need to be judicious."

Meanwhile, Grandpa commented: "Maybe to satisfy the NIMBY crowd the village could look into a unicorn barn and a rainbow factory... sheesh!"

In response to Grandpa, Jim Rosin wrote: "Yes ! Im a NIMBY. For some reason, I don't want to have 3,000'000 pounds of other villages garbage dumped 1 block from my house each and every day.Day and night. Trucks driving by my house, with all that stink and rats and pests. Maybe GRANDPA wants to switch houses with me. I've lived in my house for 48 of my 50 years on this earth. There wasnt a garbage dump here when I bought it. For some reason ,that eludes some of you, I don't want one now. Not for any amount of money." 

Rosen goes on to say, "The village has put years into re-developing the area near the train tracks so that it can be a selling point to all the commuters traveling thru. A garbage dump should make a nice addition . I'm sure any new buisnesses even thinking about coming here would love to move in next to the dump. I'm sorry Mr. Horne, I find this to be a lose, lose situation!"

An organization called  also has formed to lobby against the proposal. 

Horne said in a previous interview with Niles-Morton Grove Patch that the potential income for the village could reach as high as $400,000 and that type of increase could take financial stress off of property owners in this difficult econony. 

The board of trustees meeting will be held this evening at 7 p.m. in council chambers at the . 

Have you weighed in this issue  Share your thoughts in our comment section below. 

Cynthia S August 13, 2012 at 04:03 PM
In case you missed it: Let’s all stop and take a breath before “storming the castle” tonight at the village meeting. People have some very strong feelings about garbage and a transfer station, clearly. But the ONLY way a productive discussion can take place, and the ONLY way a decision can be made that is in the best interest of the village, is with calm discussion. Planning to go to a meeting to scream and demand will do nothing to forward any message. A calm, respectful presentation facts and concerns, will. First- it’s NOT a dump. A dump is where garbage is… dumped. And it stays. Like an open air landfill that’s never covered up. This is a transfer station. Garbage comes in, and garbage goes out. It does not remain there stinking & rotting forever. I understand you are going for hyperbole. But call it what it is. Repeating the word “dump” makes you sound like you don’t know what you are talking about, and you lose credibility, thus losing your message altogether. For those projecting plummeting real estate values because people will tell everyone there is a “dump” in Morton Grove, think calmly for a moment what the huge landfill did for Northbrook. No plummeting real estate values (their average value is much higher than Morton Grove’s) and they turned it into a community amenity–a public golf course. Can’t do that with a transfer station, but it's just one example that garbage by its very nature will not destroy property values. (1 of 4)
Cynthia S August 13, 2012 at 04:04 PM
Please stop using the Evanston transfer station as an example. This is a decades-old station that was built under very different environmental codes with very different technology by a different company, and it is located next to a residential area. This is a very different situation. It would be much better to find some examples of transfer stations built in the past 5 – 10 years and find out how those are working for the municipalities where they are located. Everyone’s calling up “varmints with parasites” and odors. Find some facts that demonstrate that there is a significant increase in rodents and or odors near these newer transfer stations. And compare that to the rodents and odors found in every alley in this village where people carelessly pile garbage around and on top of the garbage bins, attracting rats, raccoons, skunks, and many other animals to our back yards. Oftentimes we are create own rat haven by our own carelessness. (2 of 4)
Cynthia S August 13, 2012 at 04:04 PM
Is there anything good about a transfer station? I have no idea. I do know when I throw out my trash, I expect it to be taken away and go somewhere. And I would like it to be done in a responsible way that has as little a negative impact on the environment as possible. Is our current system doing this? Would a transfer station help with this? I don’t know. I have no idea if this is done efficiently, or if the transfer station would make this more efficient, or make it possible to have better processing of garbage so less goes in landfills that shouldn’t be there. Maybe so, maybe not. I don’t know, and that's the whole point. From the postings, it sounds like nobody here does either – because we haven’t collected or heard all the fact. And it will be hard to get to the facts if everyone keeps screaming and making accusations, and operating from a base of fear and ignorance. Fear of the unknown, and ignorance of all the facts and information. (3 of 4)
Cynthia S August 13, 2012 at 04:05 PM
So, as I suggested at the outset of this posting… everyone, take a deep breath and calm down. Shake off your fear and anger. Go find some facts. Think about what specific questions you need answered to understand this transfer station and its possible impact. Present those facts, ask calm questions of village staff and officials so they can go get those facts and answer those questions. What we learn may support everything people are afraid of. Or, what we learn may surprise us and we may realize this is good for our community. Or we may learn something different altogether. But screaming and accusing gets us nowhere, and only continues to divide us as a community, and it makes awful incidents like what happened to the Muslim Community Center possible. We are better than that. We have to be, or we have much bigger things to fear than garbage. (4 of 4 - I'm done.)
Cynthia S August 13, 2012 at 04:07 PM
Go talk to the school districts about the big increases in property taxes in recent years.
Katie J August 13, 2012 at 05:47 PM
Cynthia, The main issue is the village is not presenting any facts. Our village officials seem to only want to show us that this is a money and tax equation only. Do you work for the village? Do you even live in the Oakton-Austin Neighborhood? I bet you don't! Evanston has been fighting to 10 years to get rid of this. That is a fact. Northwestern students created a study on harmful effects of their dump. You can read that too. Why do you think Evanston neighbors and ETHS are any different than Morton Grove neighbors and Niles West? I think that having residents go to a meeting to present concerns is precisely why we have open meetings. The residents get a voice and deserve a place to be heard!
SuburbanMary August 13, 2012 at 06:50 PM
Talk to the administrators of high school district 219 and your grade school & middle school districts about the spike in property taxes over the last few years. If you look closely at your tax bill, you'll see that the schools ask for and GET the lion's share of what's collected ... not your Village. That's why local municipalities have to look at other ways to raise revenue to keep the town operating. But whenever the local government raises a fee or tries to bring a business into town that will generate revenue, people are all up in arms. Start attending school board meetings and complain about unnecessary expenditures (like a $15 million new aquatic center at Niles North high school). It's pie-in-the-sky wish list items like this (that then become reality) that drive up our property taxes, along with outrageous salary and pension benefits for school employees. Where do you think the money comes from to pay for all of it?
Melody August 13, 2012 at 07:37 PM
Cynthia, Where do you live?? I LIVE ONE BLOCK EAST OF THIS MESS. This place is not in an industrial area it is right next to the neighborhood I call home and a stones throw away from our High School. There are plenty of ways for this village to make money that are beneficial to our community. This is not one of them.
SuburbanMary August 13, 2012 at 07:54 PM
Please bring along your list of all the ways the village can "make money" to tonight's board meeting. I'm sure the board and everyone in the audience would love to hear your suggestions.
Bill K August 13, 2012 at 08:51 PM
What damage will our roads sustain from these overweight monsters driving here from every imaginable direction? who pays for that? What will it be like seeing these parades of garbage trucks all over town? Is this what a residential community wants, really? What is this super new technology in garbage transfer since the 10 years Evanston has had there issue? They have had public outcries that took 10 years to close there nightmare. Just one more reason for my family and I to leave this corrupt region. This is MADNESS!
Dan Goldberg August 15, 2012 at 09:35 PM
So, the village board held a meeting. Lots of people attended. They all heard about something proposed by an outside company that hasn't been voted on (or even applied for). The people got to share their concerns with them and on camera too, about their concerns and wishes. Seems like the system is working to me. I went to www.mortongroveil.org and saw a couple of reports on the topic. Did you know we can sign up for a village email newsletter? Take a look at this link -http://www.mortongroveil.org/resident/EmailNewsletter.asp - I wonder how many people have done that who are commenting here? I don't agree with the opinion stated by many that the village board was not presenting facts and find it hard to believe that since they all live here, that they'd do anything bad to themselves and us. I guess I still have faith in those we elected, so until someone can prove to me they broke that trust, then I'm inclinded to give them the benefit of the doubt and will listen to what everyone has to say and will watch to see what they do.
MJ September 05, 2012 at 01:30 PM
How about the negative effects on the health of our kids and people nearby. If the waste management transfer facility is allowed to be built, be ready for lawsuit against the city by the neighbors which eventually will bankrupt the city. This project is nothing by liability on the city - 400K tax income and 400 million potential liability.
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